160609 Town Hall Steering Committee AGD=
1. Call to Order
2. Adoption of Agenda
3. Disclosures of Pecuniary Interest and the General Nature Thereof
4. Adoption of Minutes of Previous Meeting - April 13, 2016
5. General Business & Reports
5.1. Resolution of Council dated May 9, 2016
THAT Council receives Report CAO 16-05 Town Hall Project Steering Committee Space Needs Study
Project;
AND THAT Council approves the Town Hall Project Steering Committee's continued work on
investigating site locations, budget requirements and possible financing options for a future Town
Hall building.
5.2. Exploring Options
5.3. Next Steps
6. Next Meeting
7. Adjournment
The Corporation of the Town of Tillsonburg
TOWN HALL PROJECT COMMITTEE
June 9, 2016
12:00noon
Annex Board Room
200 Broadway, 2nd Floor, Tillsonburg, ON N4G 5A7
AGENDA
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ATTENDANCE:
Marty Klein, Chair
Councillor Penny Esseltine
David Calder
Andrew Gilvesy
Rick Strouth
John Veldman
Lana White
Also Present:
Stephan Namisniak, KNY Architects Inc.
Regrets:
Mayor Stephen Molnar
1. Call to Order – 12:04
2. Adoption of Agenda
Moved By: R.Strouth Seconded By: P.Esseltine
Resolution
THAT the Agenda as prepared for the Committee meeting of April 13, 2016, be adopted.
‘Carried’
3. Disclosure of Pecuniary Interest
None
The Corporation of the Town of Tillsonburg
Town Hall Project Steering Committee
April 13, 2016
12:00am
Annex Board Room, Corporate Office
200 Broadway, 2nd Floor, Tillsonburg, ON N4G 5A7
MINUTES
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4. Approval of Previous Minutes
Moved By: D.Calder Seconded By: A.Gilvesy
Resolution
THAT the Town Hall Project Steering Committee Minutes dated March10, 2016 be
approved.
‘Carried’
5. General Business and Reports
i) KNY Space Needs Study Draft Report, dated April 1, 2016
S.Namisniak reviewed the Draft Report. A couple small changes are needed
and he will circulate a new copy.
As the report was reviewed, there was opportunity for questions.
With respect to #8, there was a question regarding how the range was arrived
at, 10,463 – 15,887 SF. The consultant responded that corporate clients
sometimes want 100% expansion, which he thinks is excessive. For that
reason, in this case he allowed for 50% expansion.
With respect to #11, the Building Cost of $275 / SF was based on no particular
design. The number for a recent project was $250.
Discussion was held regarding the square footage, proposed at 23,000 SF for 47
staff, perhaps appearing excessive in comparison to current square footage. We
have to be able to recognize the value added, i.e. enhanced Council Chambers,
meeting spaces, etc.
An independent cost consultant would come in during the design process.
Discussion was held regarding the possibility of vacating one of our current buildings
to justify the expenditure. Perhaps rent money would pay a mortgage rather than
liquidating an asset.
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It was noted that there had previously been discussion about utilizing existing
municipal parking, as there is lots of parking in town.
Parking garages cost approximately $30,000/space.
The consultant talked about the basis for interior design. Government manuals and
guidelines provides guidelines for typical work stations, suggested layouts, etc.
Details are contained in the report.
Budget costing was discussed, both construction costs and soft costs, as outlined in
the report. The escalation component was also discussed. Numbers come from
cost reports and independent cost consultants.
The conclusions contained in the report were reviewed and discussed.
During this study, various sites have been identified for consideration. New costs vs
renovation costs need to be considered as well.
The costing component that was included with the report is value added. Discussion
was held regarding separating that.
It was noted that at the last meeting the appropriateness of the proposed office sizes
wasn’t discussed.
The Consultant noted that the best way to save money is by reducing square
footage.
Further discussion was held regarding the proposed square footage, space for 47
employees, public space, and value added. The impression was that creating
‘inviting space’ was important for this project.
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It was noted that there are heavy numbers in terms of common office space. Some
of the numbers could be reduced, i.e. depending on the Chambers, that space could
also be used as common space.
The Consultant commented that he worked a bit with the Development
Commissioner through the CAO, and identified potential development sites. To do
more than this is a huge amount of work.
It was suggested that we check in with Council at this point. The Consultant has
given us a report on the size of building that is required, and what’s included in that.
The numbers can be tweaked depending on what can be given up. The next step
would be to look at alternatives. Then, the best way to deliver that to the community
needs to be considered.
Any reference to costs would need to be discussed in camera. At this point costs
won’t be discussed.
A motion was passed to go to council with an update.
Moved by A.Gilvesy
Seconded by R.Strouth THAT the Town Hall Project Steering Committee provide a
status report to Council;
AND FURTHER THAT the Committee request Council to continue the Committee’s
mandate to look at possible sites, which may or may not include other partners.
‘Carried’
The Consultant to add the existing Customer Service staff and perhaps add another
column to the report identifying where we can save some space. To also include an
option for removing all employees from Lisgar as a possibility.
The report to go to the May 9, 2016 Council Meeting. Chair Klein will introduce, the
Consultant will present the report, and the Chair will do a summary.
The revised report to be circulated by email prior to the May 9th Council Meeting.
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6. Round Table
7. Next meeting
8. Adjournment
Moved By: J.Veldman Seconded by A.Gilvesy
Resolution
THAT the April 13, 2016 meeting be adjourned at 1:27pm.
‘Carried’